I think that this part . . .

National Anarchists have higher standards of quality control then you or any other nation-state modeled after the French Revolution.

. . . is the funniest response I’ve seen so far, given that they’re mainly attracting trash their presently existing tribe doesn’t want. Higher standards of quality control? More like “lowest common denominator within the boundaries of a few passive traits”.

We really need to have an in depth conversation about identity. We seem to agree on how important it is. But I can’t wrap my head around our disagreement, since I don’t advocate group identities per se.

Seconded.

BANA, I’m formerly of San Francisco, and I can tell you that I and thousands of people I knew there deeply loved the city as it was, as it might be, and as it ought to be. There are very few cities on the North American continent towards which so many people feel such a deep and fierce and personal attachment. That love has absolutely nothing to do with the city council or the government and has everything to do with FREEDOM, a word which you may abuse but will never understand or experience. That you seek to destroy the res publica of San Francisco as a sacred shore of refuge for those who flee bigotry and intolerance, and to seek to destroy it precisely because of those virtues, is a barbarism as black as the burning of the Library of Alexandria.

You, as a national anarchist, are a fascist. The name of your philosophy is deliberately half shared with National Socialism. And the other half is just a clever excuse for small men with smaller ambitions to delude themselves than they are anything other than the Nazi they have to face each day in their tormented mirror.

You’re a Nazi. One does not argue with Nazi any more than one argues with a less intellectually pretentious thug who at least has the courage to try to kill you for something as rational as your wealth. But you, you don’t even want something of actual use to you. You’re out to destroy people’s lives for no other reason than to preserve the pathetic fiction that the colour of your skin, the names of your ancestors, and the prayers chanted by your tribe gives your miserable lives some imitation of human purpose.

Let me be precisely clear. You have the right to freedom of speech. You have the same human right as I to stand on the street outside Folsom (and which I attended twice, under contract) in your cowardly masks and preach your hateful lies. You have a right to liberty, to property, and to your bitterly wasted life. But I want you to know that if you were to die, painfully, of natural causes, for instance by swallowing a nail in your next glass of water, that I and many, many of my friends would raise a glass of red wine in guiltless celebration of your death.

The concept of national anarchism is a defilement of the human ability to reason. Your advocacy is a desecration of the human capacity for speech. That I came to know that your philosophy even existed was one of the more horrifying experiences I’ve ever known. And I’ve seen a few things.

ANTIFA

Really. I’m glad that your faith in contemporary American liberalism or a relativistic humanity makes you feel satisfied with yourself

Wrong on that count, buddy. You and the multi-culturalists are just two variants of the same pathological identity fetish, and have more in common with each other than either of you do with me.

National Anarchists have higher standards of quality control then you or any other nation-state modeled after the French Revolution.

Oh? And just who exactly are these “unqualified” people, and what makes them so worthy of exclusion? By what anti-authoritarian methods do you seek to “control” the “quality”, oh anarchist comrade? Other than encouraging them to go found their own ghetto somewhere.

Your pontification is completely off topic. But good for you. Really. I’m glad that your faith in contemporary American liberalism (“unbounded intelligence” that’s hardly genius, but it’s certainly not Folsom bound) or a relativistic humanity makes you feel satisfied with yourself. National Anarchists have higher standards of quality control then you or any other nation-state modeled after the French Revolution. Don’t bring your pistol to the rifle range.

Andrew Yeoman

Thanks. I’d also mention that many queer teenagers lose their families and their homes as they come out. Trans children are sometimes subjected to quack therapies, and trans teenagers often have trouble obtaining needed medical care at the right time. Patriarchy, homophobia, and transphobia kill children.

Huh? I don’t know how Darian Worden supposedly endorses child endangerment.

I warrant that the promotion of child endangerment at events like the Folsom Street Fair and Up Your Alley events is lame. Your laissez faire attitude towards this is corrupt, not enlightened. You have more in common with the Mayor and Senator of San Francisco than what any self described anti-authoritarian should feel comfortable with.

I warrant that the promotion of racial and sexual segregation along the lines of towns and neighborhoods, and the worship of “culture” and “identity” that demeans our capacity for unbounded intelligence and empathy is lame. Your attitude toward this is corrupt, not enlightened. You have more in common with the Mayor or Prime Minister of Rome than what any self described anti-authoritarian should feel comfortable with.

Of course, making any sort of appeal to the safety of “the children” in order to curtail public self-expression also gives you more in common with secular nanny-state liberals than you should feel comfortable with, either. As an anarchist, that kind of talk instinctively makes me reach for my Glock.

Yes, I read your article and saw your youtube video on the subject. So far the only argument that stands out from the vague but tangible sense of discontent with the atmosphere of the event is the idea that children aren’t equipped to understand it. Granted, so what? Children aren’t equipped to understand calculus. Do universities across the nation need to shut their doors for fear that some 7-year old might stumble in and ask what it’s all about?

Most people grow up with some vague idea that sex “exists out there” before being physically or emotional mature enough to really know what that means, and they’re no worse off for it. They’ll be no worse off knowing that people with identical junk do it too (even with toys or while wearing leather *gasp*).

What actually causes harm, at least to queer folk growing up, is the kind of shaming and heteronormative double standards surrounding any level of PDA that you’re citing to lend your opinion a sense of legitimacy. You pander to existing sentiments in a society that clearly isn’t anarchist or libertarian (“national” or otherwise), and claim that constitutes proof of offense. Is there anything about national anarchism that isn’t based on the relativistic worship of constructs?

For humanity
Death to identity,
Soviet Onion

I warrant that the promotion of child endangerment at events like the Folsom Street Fair and Up Your Alley events is lame. Your laissez faire attitude towards this is corrupt, not enlightened. You have more in common with the Mayor and Senator of San Francisco than what any self described anti-authoritarian should feel comfortable with. Your blanket support for people who use sex acts for advancing a political agenda is a failure of ideology to generate the inspiration necessary for a revolutionary agenda to take hold against the system. Unless of course Folsom Street Fair represents what you had in mind all along. Because it seems that what you and the San Francisco government endorses is realized in Folsom Street Fair it’s clear that what goes on there needs to be shared with a broader audience. Since I’m part of a growing movement opposed to the way the city I live in is represented, the anger that I and the growing number of people that learn about this event feel will never be laissez faire. What’s interesting is that all I have to do is show people what goes on and then mention the ideologies that endorse this as acceptable civic behavior and people like you will be thoroughly discredited in the eyes of the public. All I can say is thanks for choosing to champion an issue that makes my job easy and for simultaneously shows the world that the Bay Area National Anarchists were the first to demand children be prohibited from those events.

For revolution,
Andrew Yeoman